how important is a stockpile?

Scioneir

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Hi there everyone once again. Since I have wrote the post “Getting through xanax withdrawals tips” my mind is constantly on this thread, I mean, I always think that I need to make this thread as I really think that it is something extremely important. by the way, if there’s somebody else who’s interested about tips on how to get through xanax withdrawals then you could read that post. But I’ve got to warn you that both of these posts are strongly co –related to each other. also, I’ve been thinking that I have to make this thread due to the fact that I do not see anyone saying anything about the fact of how really important it is to maintain a stockpile of those medications that are really very necessary for you and since, as I said, I think that it is very important to everybody to all – this post is a must be and I would feel guilty if I wouldn’t write it. so here I am doing it.

 

So, because we are all in the same unpredictable world of the IOP and the USPS and so on then I think that we truly need to be prepared to anything because let’s face it – anything can happen in this world and to prove this – we all went through it (at least most of us) – there are a lot of disasters happening or maybe simply some legal changes that are truly forcing very much changes and some of those changes might be very bad for some. Like for example, there are people that are waiting for their iPhone to arrive, or some clothes or whatever else, however there are some people, like us, that are dependent on the packages that are arriving and in such a scenario where we are not able to get that package for example a month (and sometimes a week is enough) then there would be lots of people who would end bad because of this. and again, let’s face it – sometimes, something like this might happen and it DOES happen, especially, like already said, when some disasters happen or legal changes.

 

Now, there are getting more and more people lately that are willing to take the chance of getting whatever they need through some overseas online orders. Even so, we still can notice that USA is in a near constant and unstoppable chaos over this war on the drugs that’s truly endless. But… sadly, very often anybody and absolutely all people who are using medications, very often regardless whether it is legal or illegal, for some legit pains needs and those people who are doing it only in order to get high – are all put together as one single group of “drug seekers”. Sadly, we all do know this, there are lots of people with whom I’ve been talking about this saying that it happened to them. I’m pretty sure some members here can relate either. I do know and understand that this is not fair and correct, however that’s how it is that nearly automatically, without any additional questions at all, we are being treated as drug addicts and drug abusers and that’s even though we need those medications only to live, to survive, to have a (plus or minus) decent normal life. we know this, most likely they also know this, but somehow we’re still “drug addicts”, unfortunately.

 

Anyway, I am sure that nearly all people who have already used IOP at least a little bit (but I’m not talking about the veterans in the IOP world because it is obvious) have already noticed that this “world” we’re living in is, in fact, only a gamble because it is pretty much like going to a casino. You’re chances are never 100%. And that’s even if you use the most reliable IOP out there and I am telling you this because very easily it might happen when the best IOP of this year might become very easily and quickly the biggest and the worst rip off and scam artist the next year. Sure thing there are people being able to relate to this. so please, let’s face the truth – IOP is always a gamble. And this is the reason why I one am looking at almost every order of mine as it could be the very last order. Not sure how about you, but that’s how I look at it and you know why? Yeah, because it can be true any second. You never know what American government is going to do. maybe tomorrow they would BAN any shipment. Maybe tomorrow is going to be a disaster and the shipment won’t be available for like 3 months. what then? Have you ever thought about this?

 

If these questions have ever came into your mind (or now you know that you’re going to think about them) then you really should read what’s following next. so, I am a person who is using the IOP for many now and I am also a person who browses on the online forums too (as you can see) so I have read many posts wrote by lots of people. then it hit me: we really should appreciate all these forums for everything that we can acquire here. a lot of what I know it is gained from forums, from this and other ones. so this is what makes this community so strong and the best thing it is that we’re getting help. that’s what I am trying to do now and in case you’re not prepared for the day of tomorrow but you want to be then read this.

 

Assumingly, you are going to order a 90 day supply. Of course, you are taking it as per your dose schedule and do it until you are left with exactly a 30 day supply left and when this day comes then you’ve got to reorder once again a new 90 day supply. Yeah, there would remain some and that’s the point. Now, you are going to wait for your order to come in the time you are still having a 30 days worth medications available. so well, assuming that the average time of the orders is coming in about 2 weeks (calculate your own average) then it means that your order is coming in 14 days which means that when it comes then you still possess 16 days worth supply as an “extra” (if calculating that your order has appeared in 14 days). very well, you need to take that “extra” supply and put it on a storage area that you have and you should leave in there, preferably forget about it at all. and here it is your started stockpile, congrats. Yeah, I do know that looking back at this point then it is looking very small and sure thing, in case of something “bad” happens then this is not going to make any difference, agree. But, as I already said, this is just the “started stockpile”, that’s the start and this is the little step taken for having a good stockpile.

 

So now, it is obvious – you start to use your new order once again and you are doing it exactly the same – you take it until you are having an exactly 30 days supply left again and on this day you’re ordering the next 90 days supply again. it does not matter in how much time your order is coming (unless it is getting over the 30 days) but since usually it is getting there sooner then the left you are putting in there to your “started stockpile”. If your order is coming in 8 days then you are putting the left 22 day supply in there, if your order is coming in 27 days then you are putting the left 3 in there. I guess you’ve got it? you always need to take that remaining days worth that you are having left in there and you need to start adding it all to the stockpile that you have started from the last order you have had. And if you’re going to do it month by month then lately you are going to see that you have there a 20, 30 maybe 40 or even a 100 day worth supply, but with time, everything is possible with time. and this is the reason why it is so important to do so and repeat this scenario every single time. with some different deliveries either, you are going to be able to put that extra medications from the previous order to that stockpile that you have started every single time.

 

So well, as I’ve mentioned this – it requires time, it is surely not going to happen all overnight, but you are still going to noticed that your stockpile is slowly growing month by month but only in case you’re going to do it all fine. I hope a lot that you are not going to hit a snag in this IOP trail, but you really need to be prepared, for your own well being due to the fact that I already said it – all of this is a gamble. You could never know what is going to happen and this is why you need this thread. Unless you have some psychic powers. You never know when your package is going to get caught at the customs, or when your vendor is going to get out of the business  or maybe when your vendor is going to run out specifically of your medications, or when your package is gonna get lost, or whatever else what might happen, there are lots of what might happen and in the end you won’t receive the package and you won’t know when any of that would happen. So well, that is going to be that “bad part” and when you are going to start to think that it is so good that you are having the stockpile. Up until that moment you won’t see any difference with or without stockpile, of course, but as soon as you realize that the package won’t come and you would’ve been out of medications by now if there wouldn’t be the stockpile, you’re going to start to appreciate it then. You should think about that stockpile as an emergency stash as it is really what it is, that’s why you should think about it and use it like that. generally, you are not using it (and better you shouldn’t even think about it – like it is not there, I’m going to explain later why) however you do know that it is there and that you use it when it is really the need to do so. But only when there’s a REAL need. That is very similar to something like your IOP insurance policy. Or at least, this is how I one am looking at it and this is the reason I recommend to do the same (since my method pretty much seems to work well).

 

Very well, if you have now reached this point and you are still reading this then you’ve got to know that there’s still a lot to read so don’t get panicked :D also, you should get panicked in case any of those “bad part” things are happening and this is due to the fact that, once again, it is only a gamble. Plus, since you’re a member of this community then you’re most likely going to find a new reliable pharmacy pretty soon.  I just wanted to warn you about this because there might happen such kind of things and unfortunately people are getting panicky but there’s really no reasons for them doing that because you can always find a new and reliable vendor simply by searching through this site. when something “bad and unpredictable” happens then you’ve got to be prepared for it and instead of delaying you should try to find a new vendor as soon as possible due to the fact that it is obvious that an stockpile is not going to last forever. The only purpose of the stockpile (which is extremely important to people who are dependent on their drugs) is to get you only though an emergency. Only in such situations when something goes wrong. That’s why there’s the stockpile at all. if it would be all fine then we wouldn’t need the stockpile at all. and I wouldn’t write this. but since something bad and unpredictable always happens then that’s why I am writing this and that’s why stockpile is so important. when something that bad happens we start realize how important is the stockpile. And also, it is extremely important for you to get through the emergency time as soon as it is possible due to the fact that you need to end the emergency time BEFORE you’re going to waste the stockpile’s supplies too, but obviously preferably even sooner.

 

Plus, there is something important about the stockpile that I have not yet mentioned and it is the fact that most likely, it is going to dramatically change the entire outlook of your ordering and, more than that, I am sure that it is going to change your life, only in case you would do it all fine. you’ve got to believe me because I am talking from experience: a good stockpile would get a lot of stress off from your shoulders and you are going to understand better how it does that when you are going to have it. only by knowing that you are prepared for everything and that there’s nothing that can make you get through that worst period of your life – you’re already going to feel better. you would feel that there’s your stockpile growing and this would make you even more prepared, more confident that you’re going to keep your worst enemy away – the extremely terrific withdrawals that nobody wants to get through.

 

Besides, I also have some more suggestions about having a stockpile though. There are some people (or maybe there could be a lot of people) who are simply not able to have the self control in order to remain on the strict ordering schedule (and that’s why I’ve said that it is better to try not to think about it and to forget about it at all). Let me explain it. as much as you can understand there are a lot of people who are having a very hard time on staying on their normal dosage every single day so they are getting more. and this is going to happen especially knowing that you are having an extra supply. That’s the downside of the stockpile but it might be very easily controlled if YOU can control it. unfortunately this is why stockpiling is not for everyone. there are people who tell: very well, I see more of it, I have more of it then I can easily take some more of it. and that’s definitely not a good thing because a little bit today, a bit tomorrow and so on and there’s going to be nothing left of your stockpile. And by doing so you’re not trying your self control. But you really need to train your self control as it is very important when trying to stockpile. And for some people it is very sad that stockpiling is truly requiring a lot of self control as well as lots of will power in order to keep yourself away from the extra supply and to keep running the stockpile month by month without any changes. And this point might not be as easy to keep as you might think about it. if there are some people who are already having a stockpile then I guess they can relate on this and tell you that this is truly hard sometimes. But it mostly depends on you alone. There are lots of people taking regular dose as needed, however as soon as they are having some “extra” supply they start taking more, that is why, in case you know that you’re one of these persons then stockpile is obviously not for you, and also in case you have some issues with self control then stockpile is not for you. in case you don’t know whether you have or not self control issues then start the stockpile and as soon as you see that you can’t resist the temptation then I’m pretty sure you’ve got to stop it all and learn self control first.

 

I am thinking that what is going to help you in doing so is the thought that this short time of the increased enjoyment that you might have from the fact that you are using more and more often the medications until all of them would not be there anymore then it is going to be replaced (and most likely it will) with some even worse withdrawals than you normally should have. by writing this I really do not want to higher the chances of abuse or anything, of course, what I truly want is this stockpile to help you avoid the withdrawals, to help you get through the emergency situations. there’s not only the fact that you are gonna come off some higher usage amounts, but that depression that you are surely going to get through when you know that you have depleted and you have ruined out your own emergency supply and it is going to be greatly multiplied and intensified this depression if it would happen when you’re going to be in your withdrawals – it would be a lot more harder to accept and to get over it. you’re going to “fight” with yourself. You’re going to suffer a lot because of that. trust me.

 

So well, as much as you could understand (I guess) it really does not take you very much amount of money to do it or some very big orders in order to have or to start building up your own emergency supply of medicines, your stockpile. You’re not going to “notice” this amount of extra money. you do not need to have one big order risking that it is all going to be seized by the customs or whatever. your stockpile is going to grow kind of “out of nowhere”. I would honestly recommend you all to give this a try and see how that’s working for you unless you do know for sure that you are not going to get over the temptation, that you won’t resist it and take more than it is needed. If that’s the case then return to the previous point when you need to learn self control. But, if you do know that you can easily keep yourself in control then this method is for sure and then later you are going to be very pleasantly surprised seeing that you are relieved of all that stress and “what if?” question. You are not going to be so afraid of the day of tomorrow. You’re not going to be afraid of the question “what might happen tomorrow?” and it would be like that because when you’ll have your stockpile then you’re always going to be prepared for tomorrow day. you know that no withdrawals would scare you. Once again I do know all of this because I’ve been there and I know what it is like to live like that. you would finally start forgetting what it is like to count the days and the remaining pills, you would forget about those days of desperately checking and rechecking again and again every hour for the tracking updates. I’ve noticed that there are lots and lots of people that are checking their tracking updates very and very often and I have realized that this is the reason why they are doing it. they are afraid of getting into withdrawals and that’s why they check it frequently and desperately. Once again, I’ve also been there so I do know what it is like, I know what it is like to live like that checking it all very often and not being able to sleep due to the stress you have and all of those wonders like: maybe it would appear tomorrow? Constantly praying and so on for the order when it is finally going to arrive to you. oh hell… there would even be such a moment when you’re not even going to care so much if it would come or not because you are prepared. You would finally forget about those situations when you are going to stay in bed shivering and not being able to get enough strength to get at least to the toilet and then constantly checking the PC praying God for that “savior” delivery man to come sooner. I know how hard it is when you’re having the withdrawals and there’s nobody who can help you other than the delivery man. I know all of that.

 

And yeah, I have also been thinking that the order of 90 days supply at this frequency of every 2 months then it must be likely needs to be pretty agreeable (isn’t it) to most of you and it really does not really matter how cautious you are. And yeah… I’ve also gotta say that there is something very interesting and it is that seeing everyone in here who are waiting for their orders in the time they are feeling all fine, in the time they are not stressing at all and they are having no withdrawals periods at all. that’s fine. but as soon as going through the withdrawals then the waiting period is strangely changing. And this is why I am pretty sure that almost all of the people who are using IOP for a lot of years they already have understood this and that is why they must have a stockpile or at least something pretty similar to it. also, I am very sure that there many people like that that are still on these types of boards only trying to help some other people and I am sure about this one due to the fact that there are lots of them who were newbies too once upon a time so they have acquired all that knowledge exactly this way. having this said, they know what it is like to live like that and people are trying to help. somebody helped me years ago and now I’m trying to help others either. there are truly a lot of things that we are able to discuss here about stockpiling, the entire IOP world and so on, but talking specifically about stockpiling then as much as you can understand it – as sooner as you are going to start your stockpile then the better and the sooner it is going to grow and be enough for you in case there would be an emergency because, again, you would never know when that emergency is going to happen. Just think about it a bit, I am sure that in case you are going to start with the stockpiling today then you are going to be amazingly thankful to me in case that emergency would come in a couple of months. and you’ll greatly regret that you have not started to do it a couple of months ago if I would start in a few days from now.

 

Anyway, I’ve done this topic for those people that are truly thinking that it is going to take them a lot of money or the willingness to make some big orders that are, in fact, useless. Not as useless as risky. You’ve got to remember and trust me that you surely do not need to do anything like that, you don’t need doing it that way. everything that stockpiling is really taking and need is only self discipline, self control and a little bit of patients because these are the most important things as well as this strong commitment of making your orders exactly when you do need to do it. obviously, I am having no ideas whether it would truly help you or not,, but at least in most of the cases, it is truly very helpful. I do know that there are people who started their stockpiling a couple of months ago (maybe even a year) and so far then did not needed it. that’s very good. hope you’ll never need it either, however that’s better when you do need it and you don’t have it. so I hope that it would help people who have never tried the stockpiling (like for example because they’ve never heard about anything like it). I am really thinking that being ahead your plan, ahead of what you need, what you are having and so on is the best feeling. It feels like you’re always prepared. You’re always one step ahead and this feeling is even better when you’re in this IOP world, when you’re in a gamble but you still have everything under your control. And even though (unfortunately) I am not able to tell you how you can be one step ahead to your financial situation, how to be one step ahead of your enemy and so on, I still can help by telling you how to be one step ahead in the IOP world and I really have tried to do so by writing all this extremely long post, hoping that everybody else would also start having this amazing feeling as I am now having.

 

So, I am already tired of writing, my back and my fingers are aching and I guess this is enough. Just one last note. You can always let me know whether you agree with what I have said here or not. you could tell me if you don’t agree with me and why. Maybe you only partially agree with me. also, I’m not trying to say that I am the smartest here so if you do have some other better ideas on how to do it all then please share them with us. In case you do (I really do not want to say that there are no other better ideas) then you’ll help us a lot by sharing. Sharing is caring. Or maybe or even having some idea on how to make this method better. that’s all accepted. For whatever the reason, someone might be against this method so I would like to know why. People are all different as their opinions are, so we never know – maybe you are right in the end. that is why, please tell us if you think that we should not have a stockpile and why. Generally anything, any ideas, recommendations, opinions offers and so on all might be helpful. anything that is regarding the stockpile is very welcome if you would write it here.

 

And by the way, I’m sorry for this incredibly long post, I haven’t thought that I would make it so big :D and I hope that it would be for greater good. and I am also sorry if it does seem to you that I have went off topic. Maybe I really did somewhere. So, I am thankful for your attention and I hope it would be helpful. I wish you all the best and hope you would stay away from the unwanted withdrawal nightmares!

 

Melina

New member

hello there scionier and thank you very much for this. you’re truly doing an amazing job. Sure thing I do agree with you and what you have said up there. I truly enjoyed really your long post. I also think that stockpile is a must and this is especially if we are talking about the IOP world where indeed you never know what tomorrow has for you. I truly hate a lot when I am running out of the medication through (my own) tardiness, and  then I do need to have for some unknown days or maybe even some weeks for a new order to be processed and after that delivered, however the main worry for me regarding the stockpile is as the contrary to “arrive just in time” are:

 

In order to stockpile and to build a way too much on hand medication and after that to get detected by the customs (or whoever else, like police or whatever) and to have a QTY that might put me in the category of more than simply “for personal use” which would lead to big problems, I guess. even though all of that would be only for the personal use, they might get it as to “sell them”.

 

And also, the other thing, spurious poop judgment is another concern. For example, you are having a bad day for whatever the cause. At work, personal life or whatever and / or you are getting drunk, or you are having a big fight with whomever and you have a rage or whatever else might happen and then you are going to use more from that stockpile out of that “rage”  so it could be pretty dangerous I think due to the fact that it would surely lead to some additional or maybe some unwanted issues. Since you have them there, you might be using too much of them, too many sleeping pills or whatever and you are going to realize what you have done only 3 days later when waking up, or maybe not waking up at all… whatever might happen as we know. but I think that this still falls in the category of learning self discipline because i think that a well trained and disciplined person won’t do such a thing, but still, you never know whether this might happen or not and I still think that it is some kind of risk… or what?

 

Toliman

New member

Oh yeah, it is obvious that having a stockpile is an very good idea and I really have no idea how there can be someone who can be against it. indeed maybe it needs you to train your self discipline and control, but that’s still a good thing. stockpiling can save you from a lot of unwanted things that might happen to you.  and when we have a decent life thanks to drugs then it is a sure thing that we need to have a stockpile, it is something that all need to have otherwise we risk of not having a decent life at all. or most of us. Also, Scionier, I truly wish a lot that I would know this seemingly small but in fact very major important fact a lot of years ago. you sir are all correct 100%. Stockpiling has an great importance and in case you are dependent and responsible then you surely need to have a stockpile. Sadly for me, I one had to learn it the hard way, however since you people are here and you can read this posting, then you really should take advice out of it and so you are able to benefit from it and not learning it all in the hard way. thank you very much scionier for trying to help other newbies and I one truly appreciate all the effort you have put here.

 

Refes1989

New member

Sure thing I agree with you, I totally do agree with you Scionier as I really think that the stockpile is truly an amazing idea due to the fact that it is surely an amazing thing to be sure that you are not going to run out of those medications that are helping you to have a good and normal life. generally, I think that it is one of the very worst things that could happen to somebody who is depend on their medications and those little “friends” are the only ones who can keep the medical condition under control. In fact, I think that for these people stockpile is not an option but it is more like a necessity, and in such a situation when you are not having this stockpile and you truly need the medications for living and you are not having those medications anymore and the postal man is not there then you go…. with such an bad feeling. And I also totally agree with you that absolutely everybody need to look ahead and to try at least to be one step ahead, everywhere, regardless if we are talking about medications, money, relationship, work, etc. etc. etc. 

 

I personally did have seen some people and I am sure that there are lots and lots of people who are not building up a stockpile (either due to the fact that they do not want to do it, but I truly doubt about this, it is generally due to the fact that they’ve never heard about it) and I know that they’re all desperate when the “emergency” comes. However, now, since you have taken your time to write all of that (I think that you needed at least one hour) there are a lot of people out there who are having the opportunity to know this. since I’m an member of this and other boards, I have read a lot of people posts on how bad they are feeling when they ran out of medications, I truly think that it is very sad. They have been desperately asking for other people’s help on how to avoid withdrawals, what they can do about this and that withdrawal and so on. I have even seen that some of them have developed some suicide thoughts due to the fact that their pains (the wd symptoms) were soo bad. It wouldn’t be a very big surprise for me hearing that somebody killed themselves during their withdrawals. In fact, I think that it is kind of dangerous not to have any kind of stockpile, this is why I think that it is not like an option to have it, but a necessity, for a lot of people out there. hope you’ll all be fine and Scioner thank you againf or everything.

 

miranda2

New member

Oh, Scioneir, wow, incredibly indeed, this is one amazing post that lots of people would find it beneficial if they would get to reading it! I am darn sure about it! I am very thankful and glad that you have taken all your time of writing all of that out. I am thinking that it must have taken a lot of your time, time that you definitely don’t need to share it with us. But you did. You’re truly an very good and kind person. Frankly, I’ve also been thinking about doing a similar post a lot of times, I’ve been thinking about it for a good while now, however I was either lazy or I don’t know, but it doesn’t matter. the point is that I never done it and that’s no good. but you did. I personally have my stockpile, of course since I wanted to write it myself. and I also think that there are many of us who have preached about getting some orders in sooner rather than later and to count on those longer shipment times rather than the shortest ones. but still, all of this is still requiring a lot of time and discipline either and unfortunately, I know very well that there are lots of people who are not really very self disciplined, or at least not disciple enough in order to manage and keep all the things constantly and consistently in that one way. that’s undoubtedly true, what you said, that all types, sorts and kinds of some unpredictable life events are appearing out of nowhere and some of them are worse than others, some are more sudden than others and so on and so forth, but, one solid thing is that any small things that might happen is indeed able to throw one entire schedule off and there the problems starts. I one am understand it through that in case you are having 30 days to “play around” with or as a cushion, there are truly a lot of problems that might cause you to suffer from anxiety that are all eliminated as soon as you have the stockpile.

 

Besides, I do agree with the fact that each one of us are having different methods as well as some different fears, different comfort zones, different needs and so on. we’re all different. Each one of us needs to find out what it is that one thing that it is working the best for us and I hope that we are all going to do it with the least amount of stress, time and money.  only recently I did have started to work on treating my IOP medications like I am doing with all of my other medications out there and to stop thinking about the tramadols as like they are being more important than my blood pressure medications. I need both of them, of course, this is the reason why I need to be so sure and to make everything like it is needed to have both of them and by the way, I am having a pretty small stash of my blood pressure drugs either, LOL. mainly, that’s the nature of the IOP beast. Almost anything at all can happen and this is why we need to be prepared for anything at all.

 

I am really thinking that in we are finally going to take the managing of our health into our hands, without relying on the postal man, on doctors or whoever else, then we are going achieve much more. we would feel much more better without being stressed and without suffering from any anxiety because of the shipping time. all of us knows this – the time of the shipment might take very much and this is why we should be prepared properly.

 

And lately, Scioneir, this is truly an very good post with what I am congratulating you and I think that by doing this – the entire IOP world as well as this community.

 
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